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Post by Dave on Jun 2, 2004 18:45:17 GMT -5
Farinei, Kalestone and Silrev will bring me three suggestions each for a total of nine 24 hours from now. These 9 Alliance names will be voted on with a pole here, and when a total count of around 40 votes has been made we will have an alliance name.
Though this will not make everyone happy, this is the fairest and most democratic method.
If you have an alliance name you want to be entered then tell your clan leader, Alex can tell Farinei.
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Post by Luinar on Jun 2, 2004 23:26:13 GMT -5
can anyone come up with a plausible reason why we actually need one ?
my suggestion is 'Pointless'.
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Post by alex on Jun 3, 2004 6:08:02 GMT -5
heh a 24 time limit is pretty short to put an initial finalized call on something.
even if it has been running in pestilence forums for quite some time, the notice is too short for this one for it to be democratic. By the time some people even reads this the time limit will be up. I say an extended time limit.
I really dont see what the rush is. I dont want to see something stuck over my head for months, just because people couldnt think of something in 24 hours.
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Post by silrev on Jun 3, 2004 20:31:36 GMT -5
can anyone come up with a plausible reason why we actually need one ? my suggestion is 'Pointless'. Well considering the 3 guilds have been hunting together, helping each other level up, and have known each other for quite some time, it would be nice to have a single name to show how we have all worked together and will continue to do so. We are 3 separate entities with the same goals and want to have more than just a verbal alliance. And thanks a lot for calling all this pointless. While it may be for you, I didn't spend countless sleepless hours on my char and on the guild to get slapped in the face like that. I would actually like to have something to show for it. Also, I don't think this applies for the other 2 guilds, but as far as Pestilence is concerned... maybe sharing a name and logo with the 2 other guilds will help in recruiting. With only 5 or 6 active members now, no one wants to join Pestilence and see everyone offline all the time. Boblet left because of this, and i'd enjoy adding new faces rather than lose more.
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Post by silrev on Jun 3, 2004 20:38:37 GMT -5
heh a 24 time limit is pretty short to put an initial finalized call on something. even if it has been running in pestilence forums for quite some time, the notice is too short for this one for it to be democratic. By the time some people even reads this the time limit will be up. I say an extended time limit. I really dont see what the rush is. I dont want to see something stuck over my head for months, just because people couldnt think of something in 24 hours. Are you even in any of the 3 guilds yet or still in Olympus? The subject of our name/logo comes up on a daily basis, and this has been going on for far more than 24 hours. This post wasn't just put up waiting for everyone to read it. It was discussed with the leaders first. The poll will not be up for only 24 hours, but that is the limit for the entries. We all just want something done now cuz we're oh so unorganized.
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Post by alex on Jun 3, 2004 21:32:10 GMT -5
Are you even in any of the 3 guilds yet or still in Olympus? The subject of our name/logo comes up on a daily basis, and this has been going on for far more than 24 hours. This post wasn't just put up waiting for everyone to read it. It was discussed with the leaders first. The poll will not be up for only 24 hours, but that is the limit for the entries. We all just want something done now cuz we're oh so unorganized. Im sorry - are we supposed to read other clan forums then be happy with everything that comes out of there as a result. A bit more of a warning other than 24 hours would be a bit more professional in long term goals of a clan alliance. Maybe a week would be better - like i said whats the rush anyways. Me in Olympus of course, but not for long. Why? Just like you guys farm, I make the most use of my character with group hunts. Im maximizing the capita per use of my class. While being in OoC - clan activities for 32 lvls -NIL. Respect for my char NIL. Just like you guys say im farming dont bother me - I put out, im looking for shit to do with my character, ill come back when you guys can provide that. As for organization - not in the orfen rotation is all i have to say.
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Post by Furen on Jun 3, 2004 22:03:51 GMT -5
First, I do consider the 24 hour deadline a bit short but we already supplied the 3 clan names (Knights of Ni, Aeternum and The Order in our case). I do hope we keep the voting on the name for more than 3 days, since some of the people will probably have to leave for the weekend, etc.
Now silrev, is there any point to your flaming of alex or are you just flaming for the hell of it. The deal with alex is for me to deal with, so please dont interfere. I do understand the importance of having a single alliance name/logo and we'll be working towards this for the next few days, let's just not rush it.
Aeternum, by the way, means 'for eternity', 'everlasting', 'eternal'.
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Post by Tessa on Jun 4, 2004 1:23:16 GMT -5
Dunno i can vote here but i like aeternum and The Order but that is from our side hope to hear some input from other ^^
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Post by silrev on Jun 4, 2004 1:41:20 GMT -5
Eh, whatever... like I told many many people already, I could really give a flying fuck what the name of the guild is at this point. Everyone seems to have a gripe with every single decision that is made, so how bout you guys make the next without me. I won't interfere in your business anymore Fari.
Ya, I'm flaming... but unlike Alex ditching us because he couldn't find a party in kruma every second he was online, I have real reasons. They seem to stem from the administration of the game itself - the constant delaying of C1, the recent duping, only being able to get 3 - 4% per hour of nonstop hunting, watching a chain reaction of my members leaving because another left out of boredom, and other crap I don't even feel like thinking about now, but everytime something new comes up it feels like I'm just wasting my time.
No, I'm not gonna join some other clan so I can mooch and get a big sappy feeling of validation, but I don't appreciate putting my all into this guild/alliance and getting nothing in return but a dissapating Pestilence. I would also be grateful if someone else could try to organize events that include all three guilds. I don't think that is so much to ask. I dunno if I'm just paranoid, but it seems like a lot of pressure is being put on me to keep everything together when i'm having a hard enough time keeping my own people together.
To the guys that continue to grind away in pest Fizban,Dave,Axel,187,FJ,Qilue... thanks and by no means am I trying to insult any of you, but I'm sure you can understand where I'm coming from in terms of the rest of the guild.
And I'm sorry Alex, you're a great guy IRL... but as far as this game is concerned I question your motives. Just have to ask if Olympus is so great and special why leave? They obviously have much more to offer you than we commoners ever will. And even if you do join in the future, won't it just make you unhappy that you'll have to downgrade to the point you'll leave again?
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Post by Dave on Jun 4, 2004 9:21:23 GMT -5
The reason for the 24 hour deadline is that this is NOT the first time we have tried comming up with an alliance name. This has actually been on topic since we got our alliance symbol, and we had tried other methods that didn't work. There has been plenty of time and plenty of suggestions. It shouldn't take more then 24 hours to pick the best suggestions, and the voting on them will not stop until a majority is reached.
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Post by alex on Jun 4, 2004 14:21:08 GMT -5
to wrap things up
If i played any other class, sure i would of stayed. Try playing an orc shaman. Unable to solo, unable to farm, no one gives a shit about them in low lvl groups. And overlords, unable to party with non clan members after lvl 40.
I believe the reason i joined this clan is that because i have friends IRL, that I hoped would help me get through those difficult stages - in which it never happened. I tried talking my my problem out, but even you left me behind in cruma. So the obvious choice was for me to find a place where i can capitalize my character.
An orc overlord is probably the shittiest class to play in the game out of sieges. I quit a lvl 20 assasin because i believe this clan needed one, and its rare that we can even recruit one thatll stay for the long run. Its really harsh quitting a lvl 20 character i could party with, to get an implied FUCK OFF when i tried to benefit the clan more. Sure I could of stayed assasin and none of this would of ever happened, but im always looking at long term goals and a temporary clan switch is one of them.
You wanted to know my motives, its always planned for the long term and i hope you can respect that.
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Post by Dan on Jun 4, 2004 16:00:17 GMT -5
anthares solo's in wyrms area fine...now he's in SoS soloing, and finding groups if he wants..but he's soloing...
he's orc shaman btw
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Post by alex on Jun 4, 2004 18:45:50 GMT -5
is he an overlord or warcryer.
you do know that overlords get no new dots
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Post by Luinar on Jun 4, 2004 20:39:58 GMT -5
Well considering the 3 guilds have been hunting together, helping each other level up, and have known each other for quite some time, it would be nice to have a single name to show how we have all worked together and will continue to do so. We are 3 separate entities with the same goals and want to have more than just a verbal alliance. And thanks a lot for calling all this pointless. While it may be for you, I didn't spend countless sleepless hours on my char and on the guild to get slapped in the face like that. I would actually like to have something to show for it. Also, I don't think this applies for the other 2 guilds, but as far as Pestilence is concerned... maybe sharing a name and logo with the 2 other guilds will help in recruiting. With only 5 or 6 active members now, no one wants to join Pestilence and see everyone offline all the time. Boblet left because of this, and i'd enjoy adding new faces rather than lose more. sorry osi, maybe what i said seemed harsher than i meant. =/ you know i wouldnt write anything to undermine the amount of effort you've put into the guild. i wouldnt have been in your guild for the last 2ish years if i didnt appreciate/respect all the effort you put in. =p i just mean that having a logo can work just as well as an alliance name ... and that a logo is enough to show that we're an alliance, while at the same time we'd still keep a sense of individuallity ... rather than just being 3 sections of a bigger guild, if you get me. if we do have the same alliance name and logo above our heads though, we could use different colours for the symbols or something ... ooc red, rebirth white, pestilence black or something along those lines. would have to be done well though, or it could end up looking crap/cheesey. =p about the amount of active people in pestilence ... i had no idea it was getting that bad. =/ i can send someone cash so they can activate my account if you think i can help the guild. if i do, what class does the guild need ? ... playing archer meant i didnt really have anything to contribute, apart from backup in the odd pvp, and coffee crazed rants in chat. =p if i come back id want to change that, probably by lvling a dwarf, or a healer/buffer if the guild needs one. Lu
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Post by DScythe on Jun 5, 2004 1:24:39 GMT -5
Need a Bounty Hunter and the Bishop
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